Sunday, May 10, 2020

Searching World War I, Military Muster Rolls and Rosters, 1916-1939

Searching World War I, Military Muster Rolls and Rosters, 1916-1939

Finding a solider on 1 of the 2500 'reels' is not an easy task. The rolls and rosters are not indexed by person. And a specific reel / roll name can cover a number of units in between the ones listed.

Where to start.  Well first here is the link to the records.  World War I, Military Muster Rolls and Rosters, 1916-1939

Here you will find the over 2500 reels/rolls for images for the various units.  You will see something like this. Notice the reels/rolls are not sorted in any way.


First of all you need to know the unit your soldier was assigned to.  You can then search for it. But beware the terms you might use might not be the same as what is used on the reel/roll name.  And if your ancestor was in the 103rd Aero Sq, the search won't find it because it is between the 102nd and 119th Aero Sq as shown in the last line in the image above.

I got extremely frustrated with using cntl-F and trying to search so I copies the 2500 lines, did some cleaning up of the data and put it into a spreadsheet which you can access here:  WWI, Military Rolls and Rosters List in Excel  Not sure if you can download it directly or not but if you open up in Google Docs you can then save it. I found this spreadsheet was easier to sort, search and read than the website.

Once you have found the right film, no you have slog through the 1700 to 2100 images on the reel/roll.  To access the images click the camera icon from the main list.

Since there is no index to the reel/roll, my search technique was to jump to an image somewhere in the reel/roll that I thought would be close. For example to find the 103rd Aero Sq, from the above image, I'd probably jump to about image 250... from there just go up and down until I found the the 103rd.  Just for the record 103rd starts at image 146. Also another way to search quickly is in the multi-image view by looking for a image that says 'new orgn begins'.



Once you find the right organization, then it is a matter of going through page by page to find your soldier. You can speed this up a bit if you also know the rank and/or specialty.  For example for Clarence Radloff, Battery B, 1st Trench Mortar Battalion, I had to search a number of terms (this was before my spreadsheet) and took a while to find the right film. Finally on the term "mortar" I found this record. Notice his unit is not mentioned but is bracketed by two other units.

Also because of the rapid growth of the Army unit names were not always de-conflicted or were sometimes confusing. For example there is a 1st Trench Mortar Battery, assigned to the 1st Division, and the 1st Trench Mortar Battalion assigned to Corps Artillery. Some authors mixed these terms up, so had to figure that out  - the good thing is the Army kept them straight. Also, some units changed names. The 1st Trench Mortar Battalion was formed in late 1917 from several batteries from the Coastal Artillery Command (C.A.C.). This C.A.C. term remained with the unit throughout it's life. Anyway back to Clarence.

Once in the image file we find the right unit and the soldiers are broken out by rank and specialty (image 502). In this case the officers first, 1st sergeant, mess sergeant, supply sergeant, stable sergeant, sergeants, corporals, followed by chief mechanic, cooks, mechanics, horseshoers, saddler, wagoners, buglers, private 1class, and finally privates. Knowing your soldiers specialty and rank helps reduce your search time.


For both of my soldiers of interest I was able to find them and them and learn a little bit more about them.

Thursday, May 7, 2020

World War I, Military Muster Rolls and Rosters, 1916-1939

World War I, Military Muster Rolls and Rosters, 1916-1939

Family Search has published online the military muster rolls and rosters for the Army which can provide information about a solider that might not found elsewhere. For example besides the unit and location (at least in CONUS) you can see if somebody went AWOL, if they were court martialed, or received non-judicial punishment. It will also show if they were a gain or loss to the unit or if they were transferred in or out from what unit.  Some even show place / date of enlistment.

One thing I've noticed about the records is around Jun 1918 the records became a lot leaner in that remarks were not normally added. I'm sure this is because of the rapid buildup, units being overseas and just the hectic pace with limited 'typists' to compose the lists. Yes almost everything is typed and surprisingly with few apparent errors.

The first page of the monthly or bi-monthly report shows the unit, next level unit (i.e. regiment, division, etc.) and duty station. Along with the dates of the report.

 
  In the report itself, each person is listed along with serial number, date of enlistment and remarks. In this case on Clarence Radloff you can see he left for overseas service on Mch 30/18 - 30 Mar 18.  You will notice there is no rank. That is because they grouped the names by rank with a header for each section. So if you are looking for officers they were first. Privates towards the end of the report. So if you know the rank, then look for the right heading.


Later the rosters became a monthly list and was pretty much just that, a list.


At the end of every monthly report there was also a section of gains and losses - in this case notice Louis Radlof - KIA. Notice the headings of Losses, Sergeants, Corporals, Privates... this is how most of the reports will look when listing the soldiers.


Next blog is how to find your soldier.

Monday, May 4, 2020

Facebook and Genealogy

Facebook and Genealogy


Never thought much about Facebook being a source of genealogy. Well actually it isn't. What it can be is a way to connect with people who might know something, have sources, done something or if you are lucky be related to you.

In my search for information on Louis Radlof and Clarence Radloff, I came across two Facebook pages of interest.

The first is Meuse-Argonne.com  a FB page dedicated to the battle.  After only being on here for about 3 weeks I learned or obtained the following:
  1. The AEF Resources Map by Weldon Hoppe. Weldon has plotted all of the Griffin photos and Burial Plats on a GIS system that was helpful in finding Louis' initial burial site.
  2. Randal Gaulke shared his blog which had information on researching WWI photographs.
  3. Ronald Cossee who shared his blog on the U.S. cemeteries in France. He then shared  copies of the History of the American Grave Registration Service along with excellent copies of the photos in the history and what appears to be an unpublished manuscript of Maj Gen North who played a major role in the WWI and WWII cemeteries.
The second page is the Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery and Memorial FB page dedicated to the cemetery. For the past several weeks, Bruce Malone the Superintendent has been posting daily pictures of the cemetery as he does his morning rounds of the now closed facility due to the COVID-19 'confinement/quarantine' as he calls it. Today, he posted a picture of Louis Radlof's grave site.

So don't discount Facebook as a way to get in touch with other researchers or subject matter experts.

Saturday, May 2, 2020



Where Was Louis Radlof Buried


After reading the Burial Case File for Louis Radlof, PVT, US Army, SN 4005514, a number of questions started to arise. Where was he killed? Where was he initially buried? The thought intrigued me and turns out over the 2 years since I first looked into this, a lot of new data appeared which eventually narrowed down the location of his wartime grave.

By April 2020 the summary burial cards were also available online at the National Archives and provides a good summary of the what happen to Louis (figure 1 and 2). This was one of the last things I found and was created sometime after the war to document all burials and disposition of remains.  The front side confirms the data from his burial case file that he was buried in a wartime grave then moved Meuse Argonne Cemetery then reinterred into his final resting place as shown below. In reality I suspect the burial card was created from his burial case file. The top half of the back side was completed for remains that where shipped back to the United States.

Louis Radlof Burial Card form the National Archives - Front
Louis Radlof Burial Card from the National Archives - Back

Here is the URL for the main page of the Card Register:  https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6943087  The records are group by last name. Once open up a file there might 1500 to 1800 names. In the image page number window (bottom right) just enter a page number, check the name then move up or down as needed.

Source:  “Card Register of Burials of Deceased American Soldiers, 1917 - 1922 (File: Rabe - Reeder). Record Group 92, Records of the Office of the Quartermaster General, 1774 - 1985.” National Archives, Washington DC. Accessed April 10, 2020. https://catalog.archives.gov/id/109105220.



Monday, November 11, 2019

Veterans Day 2019





While Veterans day is a day to honor all Veterans, there are two who I especially wish to honor  Louis Radlof and Clarence Radloff.

Louis Radlof was killed in action sometime between 1045 and 1055 on the 11th of November 1918...  15 to 5 minutes before the war to end all wars ended.

Louis Radlof, PVT, serial number 4005514, killed in action at the age 24 years, 6 months, 16 days after serving 3 months, 17 days in the U.S. Army.

Clarence served in WWI in a Trench Mortar Battalion and while he returned home, he passed away at the age of 32, possibly from service connected medical conditions.

Their story as we know it today:   Louis and Clarence Radloff


WWI
  • Louis Radlof - Army
  • Clarence Radlof - Army
 Finally honoring all the descendants of Charles Radloff (my grandfather) who have severed:

WWII
  • Louis Radloff - Marines (son)

Cold War / Vietnam era
  • Charles Radloff - AF (son)
  • Robert (Bob) Radloff - Navy (grandson)
  • Stephen Radloff - AF (grandson)
  • Michael Ludens - Marines (grandson)
  • Neil Gross - Army (grandson)

Iraq / Afghanistan / Post 9/11 era
  • Andrew Radloff - AF (great-grandson)
  • Nicholas Radloff - AF (great-grandson)